
This week, the Associated Press Poll, better known as the AP Poll, accurately omitted Notre Dame from the Top 25. At 13-7 prior to Monday night's defeat at home to Eighth-Ranked Marquette, the Fighting Irish had the most losses among any Top 25 team. With the loss Monday to the Golden Eagles, the Irish now have eight defeats. Georgetown had the second most, with six, and they're ranked #25.
The ESPN/USA Today Poll, on the other hand, decided to rank Notre Dame 22nd in the country. That's despite the fact that the Irish didn't win a game last week, even though both games were against ranked teams. (@ #8 Syracuse, vs #3 Connecticut)
There are two reasons, in my estimation that the Irish still received some love from the voters of the ESPN/USA Today poll, even though the Irish has now lost four straight:
1) They're Notre Dame.
2) They lost to good teams.
That's it. For those of you who think that's enough reason to keep them in the Top 25, fine. Or as Dennis Green would say, "if you want to crown their ***, crown 'em!" But they are not at all deserving of that ranking.
Instead, they're overrated.
That's my take, anyway. But here's the argument for both sides of this, and you the reader can decide which you like.
The Case For Them:
Notre Dame has gone through a tough stretch, yes. But look at the teams they've played recently? Their last four games have been losses, true, but the Irish has lost to ranked teams each time. (@ #23 Louisville, @ #8 Syracuse, vs #3 UConn, vs #11 Marquette) And, Notre Dame beat Texas, albeit on a neutral floor, but Texas was #6 at the time. And, the Domers beat Georgetown, when they were ranked #11 at home by six. They've had some good wins, and they've weathered a brutal schedule that has had them face seven ranked teams already. This is definitely one of the Top 25 teams in America. They're only at this record because they play in arguably the toughest conference in the country. If Butler is in this group, we should be too. (Butler is #13)
The Case Against Them:
This is ridiculous! This team is 13-8. No matter what your schedule, you should be better than that to be ranked. And they say they're schedule is so tough, but if they were really that good, wouldn't they have more than two wins against ranked teams? 2-5 against the best competition is all you need to know. They shouldn't be rewarded for wins over Loyola Marymount or South Carolina Upstate. This team played North Carolina on a neutral site court and lost by 15. In the Dean Dome, you could understand it. But in Maui, a loss by 15? When you're supposed to be the #7 team at the time? They lost to Ohio State at home. They lost at St. Johns, a team that is 11-8. This team is only ranked because they were supposed to be good, and the media is slowly starting to learn they're not so good. Good teams win some of these games. Notre Dame is a talented team, but if they were Top 25 worthy they'd actually win some games where they're tested.
Where do you stand? Feel free to post a comment...
Any team with 8 losses so far should not be ranked in the top 25. No matter who they are. Beat someone good. If you are in a tough conference that is too bad. Beat someone. Otherwise, switch to a lower rated conference, pad your record (like St. Mary's) and the voters will think more highly of your program, because they seem to be most influenced by win totals, rather than who you beat.
ReplyDeleteND should be out cause I cant stand them
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